Was ist das Problem mit Ford Thaxton?

[Scorechaser]

Was ist im FSM-Forum eigentlich das Problem mit Ford Thaxton? Der Mann hat eine Sprache, einen Stil, der völlig unter allem Niveau ist, wird aber dennoch im Forum geduldet. Sein Stil im Forum ist beleidigend, anmaßend und überaus unfreundlich. Leider lernt der Gute nichts, und meint sein Wort ist das Wort Gottes und wir sind ja alle nur Fanboys.

Sorry, ein widerlicher Kerl.

[Marcus Stöhr]

Ich habe da mal was für dich:

EXCERPT FROM "FILM SCORE MONTHLY"

>

> --

> ABOUT FORD THAXTON

>

> Posted by Lukas Kendall on January 28, 1998 at 01:05:30:

>

> ABOUT FORD THAXTON

>

> This post will have little to no meaning to people not

> familiar with the newsgroup rec.music.movies, but I

> simply must vent about the one film music "persona"

> whom I truly cannot stand.

>

> DO NOT READ THIS if you don't want to hear about it.

> This will be personal. I'M SERIOUS! This is very

> specific venting that I will not foist on unsuspecting

> readers.

>

> ***

>

> I'll start off by saying that most of the people producing

> soundtrack albums who you, as fans, read about, are

> themselves fans. That's why they got into it. These

> are people not much brighter than you or I who happened

> to parlay a love of film music with the proper connections

> into a good job and/or lifestyle. No harm there - it's

> what I'm trying to do!

>

> I'll also say that these people are, by and large,

> nerds. This is not a bad thing. Today, being a nerd is

> kind of hip, and there simply is no better description for

> one who memorizes facts about Jerry Goldsmith music than

> a grade-A, class-one nerd. There are a lot nerds

> out there who are good people and who do good work.

> They have their hang ups, as do we all, but

> they get by through possessing a certain amount of human

> decency and humility.

>

> Ford Thaxton (real name, Buford) is a nasty, nasty

> piece of work. In this little essay I will reveal all I

> know about this unpleasant Hutt (as in, Jabba the) who

> takes great pleasure in being the town bully on rec.music.

> movies and slamming the work of Jeff Bond, my trusty

> FSM cohort, and myself.

>

> It may be hard for people to read this and think, how mean,

> Ford has been really helpful to people who have a question

> about a soundtrack album, and after all he is "in the

> business." Put simply, we are dealing with a deranged

> person who comes from a tortured background. His family

> is dysfunctional, to put it mildly, and everything bad

> that has ever happened to him is reflected in the

> cruelty and pounding tone of his "writing."

>

> ***

>

> Some physical characteristics:

>

> Ford is probably over 300 pounds. Now I love all living

> things, and have no problem with people who are overweight,

> or downright obese. But I do have problems with people who

> make my life difficult -- on purpose! -- and in this case

> everything is fair game.

>

> So we're envisioning 300 pounds. Now imagine suspenders,

> a bald dome, and thick coke-bottle glasses. This is

> Ford Thaxton. He wags his finger in your face when he

> talks and dominates any discussion with idiotic comments

> such as "Have you taken your meds today?"

>

> Some background:

>

> Besides his childhood, the details of which I barely know,

> thank god, Ford's schooling is minimal, to say the least,

> and he somehow got involved in producing a radio show

> about soundtracks in his native Olympia, Washington.

> Through this he managed to contact some film composers -

> this is probably in the mid-'80s - and he "produced" his

> first album with Dennis McCarthy on Star Trek: The

> Next Generation's "Encounter at Farpoint" (1987).

> The story there is that Ford was visiting Dennis at

> the time - a truly nice guy and warm human being who

> will not turn away someone, even a total freak like Ford.

> They were at the mastering session and Dennis basically

> turned over decisions of sequencing to Ford. ooooh,

> the seas parted, the sky went pitch black at noon

> and a career was born.

>

> >From there Ford moved to LA some time in the late-80s

> where reportedly he worked for like two weeks at

> Varese Sarabande before leaving (or being fired). He

> worked on some albums for GNP/Crescendo in the late

> 1980s before a fall-out with Crescendo's Neil Norman

> sent him running back to Olympia, tail between his

> legs. Somewhere in here he got hooked up with Silva Screen

> where he produced such memorable albums as

> "Frankenhooker" and a ton of low-grade horror dreck.

> (Ford has a complete lack of taste and a tin ear,

> which has contributed not only to his obnoxiously

> hosted radio shows, but some truly unmemorable and

> flawed, wasted albums, with everything from guillotine

> edits to illiterate liner notes to arbitrary se-

> quencing.)

>

> Through this time, envision a man, to use the term

> loosely, who existed to make telephone calls. This is

> someone who found a coterie of composers who didn't have

> the heart to tell him to get lost (the way James Horner

> personally did). He would then call them EVERY WEEK,

> if not every other day, to suck up, chat them up, and

> waste their time. Around this time was when he

> made the infamous call to the now-late Mort Stevens,

> "So Mort, I hear you're dying of cancer...", and in

> his most hilarious act ever, ran up $250 in PHONE

> SEX charges while staying with a well known composer.

> You've gotta be pretty dumb to do that - like they're

> not going to find out?

>

> ***

>

> Around this time is also where I come in. People sometimes

> ask about my background, and I'll tell it: I was a high

> school student on Martha's Vineyard, MA, where I grew up,

> and I published FILM SCORE MONTHLY (then going not

> even by this title, but as "The Soundtrack Club") as

> a small newsletter, for fun. One summer my dad, a doctor,

> treated a successful television composer for allergies

> or something and I met this gentleman (now a good friend

> of the family), I think during the summer of 1991. The

> composer offered to put me in contact with some people

> who might be interested in the newsletter, as it then

> was, and could help with other contacts and information.

>

> One of these referrals was Ford Thaxton - and I was

> thoroughly warned that this guy was downright nuts and

> a bully and to be very careful. But at the same time

> he knew people, had an encyclopedic knowledge of film

> music, and, hell, how much damage could he do from

> across the continent? (Shortly thereafter Ford

> borrowed $1000 from this composer, a debt which went

> unpaid for years until Ford made it up to him by producing

> an album for free.)

>

> So, from 1991 until probably 1994 I was on Ford's

> "call list," and I, Lukas Kendall, your humble editor,

> was at the receiving end of a phone call almost every

> single day. Such phone calls were of complete unim-

> portance: desire to spread "news" first - now fulfilled

> by rec.music.movies, except we beat him with most news

> at FSM.com anyway - dumb questions, personal insults,

> unintentional harassment of my poor mom, but more than

> anything persistent bullying.

>

> Keep in mind: I was between 16 and 20 years old,

> a rube from an island. People ask why I seem so loathe

> of Ford personally, and this is why: he repeatedly

> berated and abused me when I was new to the "business."

> I would never take advantage of someone this young

> but that's exactly what Ford did. And by take advantage,

> I mean bully me into accepting his opinions as gospel,

> threatening to "cut me off" from his contacts (an

> empty threat if there ever was one), and berating me

> into apologizing if I dared name one of Ford's

> transgressions.

>

> And believe me there are many. This is someone who has

> hoarded tapes like no one else. Someone who has tons of

> tons of cool things on DAT, many of which he has either

> directly bootlegged himself, or copies of which have

> found their way to bootleggers. Someone who would SELL

> tape copies of unreleased scores to alleged FRIENDS to

> pay for his Doritos and Diet Coke habit. Someone who

> regularly produces albums under pseudonyms (such as

> Arch Stanton on some utter #####from Edel, and Jason

> Alexander Stone on the 2CD Joe Harnell compilation).

> Someone who was directly involved in putting together

> the Off World Blade Runner bootleg, which really

> opened the floodgates for illegal recordings.

>

> ***

>

> This is truly a small, insecure, mean person who would

> need to beat up on a naive kid over the phone every

> single day. I still remember my freshman year at Amherst

> College and my roommates despising this "Ford" who would

> telephone all the time.

>

> Moving on, Ford's only real "break" as a record producer

> came with the 4CD Arista box set of the Star Wars Trilogy.

> Out of respect for Lucasfilm and the producer on this

> project, my friend Nick Redman, I will not go into

> details. Suffice it to say I was privy to them, being

> the liner note writer on the project (which was

> a lot of fun!), and they are that Ford became a complete,

> irrational prima donna and would never again work for

> either Lucasfilm, Redman, or 20th Century Fox.

>

> In fact it brings me great joy that Fox deliberately

> excluded Ford, contractually, from his true dream project:

> the 6CD Irwin Allen box set put out by Crescendo two

> years ago. Fox and the producers simply would not allow

> Ford any access to the material for fear of the havoc

> that he would create.

>

> Shortly after this I finally put my foot down and broke

> what I consider to be the only abusive relationship I

> have ever been in, in my entire life. One night I noticed

> that there was a person called "Cuecutter" posting repeated

> and nasty messages on the Babylon 5 newsgroup in the

> most identifiable fractured English ever seen. Yes, it

> could only be the work of Ford Thaxton - as anyone who

> reads rec.music.movies knows, his style of non-writing

> is impossible for him either to improve, or hide.

> I identified "Cuecutter" as such, to the gratitude of

> the B5 denizens, and found myself being screamed at

> by Ford on the phone, literally 15 minutes after I posted

> this revelation.

>

> This would be the last time I would speak directly to

> Ford Thaxton. Since then he has tried to call me and

> I always hang up instantly, just as I always delete

> his e-mails without opening them. This was 1994.

>

> ***

>

> Whatever whipping-boy function I once served for

> Ford is now fulfilled by the innocent questioners

> and fans on rec.music.movies. Although I rarely post

> to rmm, I do read it regularly, and I have seen Ford

> attack, berate and illogically harass upwards of

> dozens of innocent users. At the same time I see

> people come to Ford's defense when attacked, because

> he is perceived as someone "in the know," which is

> ludicrous. This is someone *loathed* by most, and only

> barely tolerated by the rest. This is someone with a

> tin ear whose albums are sheer idiocy, filled with

> incorrect takes and unreleasable edits.

>

> On a Psych 101 level, this is someone whose entire

> life has seen him abused, and thus he seeks instead to

> be the authority figure, discplining others, to soothe

> his own pain. Although this is pitiable, it is not

> acceptable. I know I'm one to talk about authority figures,

> since I act as the same kind of dispenser of information

> via FILM SCORE MONTHLY, but I would never approach the

> sheer malice and personal spite of Ford -- a fact

> Ford does not understand, for I only focus my evil

> on one person: him.

>

> But there are many differences between us. I do not

> post several times a day to correct people on matters

> of opinion, not fact. I do not

> search dejanews to find incriminating information on

> people. I do not call up episodes from the past

> (except with Ford!). I do not harass Internet providers

> of people with whom I disagree, and I certainly do not

> find people's HOME PHONE NUMBERS to berate them.

>

> And contrary to what Ford repeatedly alleges, I am not

> without humility. A lot of FSM to me is fun, and

> entertainment, and I am secure enough in what I do not

> to care if I am criticized, just as I am sure many

> composers do not care if I criticize them. Why would

> James Newton Howard care if I give a CD of his a bad

> review? He might be interested, he might disagree, but

> he's not going to go, how dare this person disrespect

> me. I met James Newton Howard, he's really cool and I

> do respect him. One of the most frustrating things

> is how Ford has horrible tastes and needs to suck up

> to marginal composers, defending them to his last

> breath, as a substitute for his lack of any worthwhile

> intellectual contribution to film music.

>

> OK, now I'm going in circles. I will end. I realize

> the distasteful nature of this diatribe, which is why

> I did not post it to rec.music.movies. But this is

> upwards of one-half a decade of venting. If I think of

> any other Ford stories - there seem to be more daily -

> I will add them. All I'll say is, you've gotta get

> me pretty riled up to write anything this long about

> one person.

>

> Lukas Kendall

Das sollte einiges zur Person Ford A. Thaxton erklären.

[Gast Matthias Noe]

Wuha! Da war mein Vergleich à la Rudi Assauer der Filmmusikproduzenten noch reichlich untertrieben. Wenn Kendall sich zu einem für ihn doch sehr direkten Kampfblatt hinreißen lässt, dann will das bei diesem eigentlich sehr zuvorkommenden Kerl schon was heißen. Die Sache mit dem 250$-Gespräch und dem 'Krebs-Anruf' sowie das Ermöglichen vieler Bootlegs setzt dem Ganzen die Krone auf.

Gruß,

Matthias

[Gast Stefan Jania]

Ein Abendgebet aus der REC.MUSIC.MOVIES von 1997:

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Subject: Ode to Ford

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The Ford is my shepherd I really don’t want

He maketh me lie down from nausea

He leadeth me beside still toilet waters when I wretch after reading his posts.

He restoreth my sole reason for being online

He leadeth me in the paths of self righteousness

Yea though I scroll through the valley of the shadow of rec.music.movies

I will fear no post

For thou art with me

Thy knowledge and thy witicisms they comfort me

Thou preparest a post before me in the presence of my fellow heathen

Thou annointest my head with Fordisms

My computer runneth over

Surely goodness and regards shall follow me all the days of my life

And I will dwell in the house of the Ford forever.

Der Mensch ist schon seit vielen Jahren so und wird sich nicht mehr ändern.

[Osthunter]

Mich würde mal interessieren, was ihr von dieser "schillernden" Persönlichkeit aus der Produzentensparte für Soundtracks haltet. Es fällt auf, dass er immer wieder in den amerikanischen Foren (FSM) andere Foremnitglieder übel beleidigt, runtermacht und verhöhnt. Jetzt zuletzt auch wieder zum Thema der neuen Intrada Special Edition "Inchon". Immerhin hat er ja auch viele Soundtrackveröffentlichungen mitproduziert, vor allem die Prometheus CDs.

Also: Was haltet ihr von T. ? Verfolgt ihr diese Diskussionen, in denen nur gezofft wird?

Michael

[Gast Stefan Jania]

Verfolgt ihr diese Diskussionen, in denen nur gezofft wird?

Schon lange nicht mehr. Da ist mir meine Zeit zu schade zu.

[Scorechaser]

Mich würde mal interessieren, was ihr von dieser "schillernden" Persönlichkeit aus der Produzentensparte für Soundtracks haltet. Es fällt auf, dass er immer wieder in den amerikanischen Foren (FSM) andere Foremnitglieder übel beleidigt, runtermacht und verhöhnt. Jetzt zuletzt auch wieder zum Thema der neuen Intrada Special Edition "Inchon". Immerhin hat er ja auch viele Soundtrackveröffentlichungen mitproduziert, vor allem die Prometheus CDs.

Also: Was haltet ihr von T. ? Verfolgt ihr diese Diskussionen, in denen nur gezofft wird?

Michael

Deswegen hält er sich ja für was besseres, aber letzendlich ist er auch nur ein Fanboy, wie wir auch, der es nur irgendwie geschafft hat, da reinzukommen...

[Marcus Stöhr]

Hier noch ein Kommentar von Jerry Goldsmith auf die Frage, was er von Filmmusiksammlern hält:

I'm glad that people like that exist because they buy records. But I sometimes wonder if an avid collector like Ford Thaxton has a life.

Quelle: AOL Interview 1995

[Gast Christian Kühn]

Christian Clemmensen hat mich audiomäßig mal an einem von Thaxton's Telefonanrufen teilhaben lassen...zum Brüllen komisch, und sehr, sehr besorgniserregend!

Irgendjemand bezeichnete ihn mal als eine Massenvernichtungswaffe...irgendwie paßt das.

So, toll, wenn ich jetzt noch von dem guten Mann träume, dann aber hier mal ganz genau, gell?! :konfused:

CK

[BigMacGyver]

Der ist schon irgendwie ein komischer kauz der ford.

Aber in letzter zeit scheint er sich ja zumindest im fsm board zusammenzureissen. Es ist mir jedenfalls aufgefallen, dass er in situationen in denen er normalerweise seine sprüche ablassen würde seit neuestem überraschend überraschend zivilisiert reagiert. Da fragt man sich sofort ob diese positive persönlichkeitsänderung von dauer sein wird oder ob da von "oben" nachgeholfen wurde :konfused:

[Gast iLLumination]

vielleicht hat er ein paar auf die fresse bekommen :konfused: